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Thread: Future of Forums and Aquatic Information

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    Forums are still the only place to go that will give you an in depth, complete and trusted source of information when you are not talking face to face with a person. Or emailing a person directly.
    Forums generally dont tolerate bad behavior, abuse or any of the ism's (racism etc), although I have posted an apology or two on forums after having a sherbert or two, no harm is ever intended. Social media is a breeding ground for trolls.
    Unfortunately forum participation, and therefor forums, are on the decline. Younger people want, and expect, an answer to their questions in seconds. Social media works like that even if the answer is wrong.

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    ive been a part of forums since longer than i care to remember,fish ,cars,shooter forums
    unfortunately the i want it now mentallity is the downfall for forums tue fact that theres reputable people on them with 100s of years combined experience doesnt matter to the now generation
    i personally find social media sites to be full of 2 minute legends ,trolls and the information on them to be misleading due to the no accountability factor
    Having said that the specialised sites like killifish and the likes are generally pretty good but unfortunately theres no ability to research which is the main plus for the forum user
    buying and selling on the media sites is a nightmare at times,people not turning up,and rubbishing you after a deal was done ,or in the case of fish.......the quality is gone and the knowledge is negligable.peope just see the dollar and dont care ,
    Theres zero accountability,someone doesnt like the fact you know more or try to correct some mis information they block you or try to report you,
    i cant remember the last time i used a non specific site..theres 6 billion people with 5.98 bullion different opinions and everyone else is always wrong
    give me forums and clubs any day

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    Great topic!

    I managed a forum for about 7 years and I think they slowed down just because they couldn't keep up with technology. Mobile came in like a wrecking ball and forums just weren't ready on time, it took them too long (and still not good!). No one wants to install 'tapatalk', and even implementing it in a forum wasn't an easy task...Forums are just 'too hard', can't keep up with the mobility of our behaviour these days. I need to pinch to resize to read stuff on my phone, I can't properly quote, uploading images is a nightmare...etc. I used to love coming back home after a long day and just sit on my PC and read all that knowledge shared by other breeders, etc, it was just such a treat! I was also way younger back then, with not so many worries in my life...but still, it wasn't just me, people from different demographics would do the same. Mobiles were just too easy. All of a sudden I'd find myself sitting in the couch reading the forum...but I would not post as often...and from there, everything went down. I reckon it was at some point between 2008-2012 when we noticed the decline, and the team decided to just leave it, unfortunately..

    In any case, I keep looking for forums, specially wherever I go live. First thing I did when I moved to Oz was to look for forums here (and I found AL! WIN!!), I guess I also love the more personal contact and truth I feel in a forum than in social media (go figure...as this is less..'personal'). I believe connections can be made with people that REALLY is into it, people that spend time in forums just because they love whatever the forum is about, which might lead to meet this people in person and, all of a sudden...your hobby is 10x more rewarding! I guess that's why I'm still around.

    I have to disagree regarding FB is about to die...sorry but all I do is FB at work hah they just closed their best year ever. I'm not saying is going to die eventually, but they still have a dozen years in them.

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    Well lets keep AL going as I find it really useful and a great resource for finding stuff
    I'm disappointed its not as active as it use to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDM View Post
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    I managed a forum for about 7 years and I think they slowed down just because they couldn't keep up with technology. .
    Check out this forum software.
    https://www.discourse.org/ I manage a private forum with that software. It's pretty cool but not as accessible as FB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel View Post
    Check out this forum software.
    https://www.discourse.org/ I manage a private forum with that software. It's pretty cool but not as accessible as FB.
    ah, wow looks quite good but again...founded in 2013..hehe too late to save some forums. We should give it a go in AL :P

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    I think one of the sneaky things you could do is to enable FB or google login (authentication) then people can sign up easily.

    The seperation of hobbies, family, friends, privacy h as been throughly blurred by social media so it will be an uphill battle I reckon.

    How do you imagine the forums to be in 10 years? vs FB? vs Instagram etc?

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    I much prefer forums however they need to be well visited and hum with lots of posts to stay viable. Now and then I still drop into AL but it's sad to see how little activity we have these days. It really was alive in years past and I learned so much.

    Not sure I think the "live" nature of FB is the reason it has surpassed forums. IMO the "one stop shop" of FB is perhaps a big factor, you login to catch up with friends and end up looking at aquarium groups and whatever other groups you've joined. It then is almost an inconvenience to visit forums separately. Meanwhile FB collects your data and onsells it.... but that's a whole other issue.

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    Interesting as I was just thinking of this very topic today mainly due to Facebook seeming to be cracking down hard on all the aquarium buy and sell and hobby groups due to their stricter adherence to their guidelines, especially around the sale of live animals.

    Quite a few Facebook groups I am apart of are now stating that the sale of anything is prohibited on the group due to the apparent shutdown of several aquarium hobby groups by Facebook for the sale of live fish within them.

    Also not to mention the Marketplace is now a complete nightmare, I myself have had an aquarium I am trying to sell “under review” for going on 4 days now, despite no live fish being involved in the sale.

    So whilst forums to tend to be on the decline largely due the Facebook I do believe that with the clamping down by Facebook it will drive many hobbyists to other sources to buy and sell, which could see an increase in activity at least in the classified sections of the forums.

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    Facebook will probably adjust those rules eventually. The ease of uploading photos and connecting to others in facebook will still probably have the edge IMHO.

    Most people these days dont even know or cant be bothered uploading to picture host and linking back. TBH i also agree with easier uploads etc because you can spend more time taking photo.

    The information on facebook is below average IMHO unless you know who to ask. Repetitive questions are rife as people dont know how to search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seantheprawn View Post
    Interesting as I was just thinking of this very topic today mainly due to Facebook seeming to be cracking down hard on all the aquarium buy and sell and hobby groups due to their stricter adherence to their guidelines, especially around the sale of live animals.

    Quite a few Facebook groups I am apart of are now stating that the sale of anything is prohibited on the group due to the apparent shutdown of several aquarium hobby groups by Facebook for the sale of live fish within them.

    Also not to mention the Marketplace is now a complete nightmare, I myself have had an aquarium I am trying to sell “under review” for going on 4 days now, despite no live fish being involved in the sale.

    So whilst forums to tend to be on the decline largely due the Facebook I do believe that with the clamping down by Facebook it will drive many hobbyists to other sources to buy and sell, which could see an increase in activity at least in the classified sections of the forums.
    I logged in specifically to mention this very thing !!!

    I see forums making a comeback at least to allow people to sell fish. shrimp, etc.
    Whatever

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    Quote Originally Posted by seantheprawn View Post

    So whilst forums to tend to be on the decline largely due the Facebook I do believe that with the clamping down by Facebook it will drive many hobbyists to other sources to buy and sell, which could see an increase in activity at least in the classified sections of the forums.
    It is easier to post pics and i guess talk fish and planted tanks on Facebook. That's why most fish forums are dying or even dead!

    I still prefer a traditional forum setup for discussing fish tank related stuff. You may find some useful stuff on Facebook but not always. The depth of knowledge of fish keeping started on forums and not everyone has moved over to Facebook. People are still lurking and waiting for the opportunity to post useful info

    I haven't sold anything on Facebook related to fish and equipment but most people usually just come back to the forums or Gumtree to sell their stuff.

    Forums are on the decline but not totally dead yet. Hopefully AquariumLife stays around for the long haul

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    From a selling perspective I find FB as well as forums terrible, mainly because everyone expects great pics and I can't deliver. AL is difficult in that you have to load pics to service then to forum then make sure inbox is not full empty inbox, respond to message, wait for answer. I have sold hardly anything on AL and apart from quality and price of products perhaps I would put it down to insufficient thoroughfare. generally good customers though.
    On FB the problem is the rules, everybody is interested initially and no one follows through, demands for more and more pics and due to enormous amount of information initial post is quickly forgotten.
    There seems to be a move now to something called meme and dedicated fish auction pages. Sounds interesting.
    And as someone mentioned gummitree above. The customers there are the pits, constant low balling and annoyance. Petlink seems to attract very little interest.
    For discussing fish related matter both forums and FB are viable options IMO.

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