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    Hi all, I am in the planing stages for my 4th tank at home (in a 80sqm apartment) I need to keep it small so I have settled on the 45p. Have purchased a few items, let the planning phase begin... Any advice on equipment would be good, I will start listing stuff below, its always handy for me to refer back to this thread when I am buying equipment and plants online!

    Tank - 60p Fire-Aqua 60x31x36cm
    Filter - Ista External Mini Canister Filter 360lph
    Heater - probably none / will deal with that when its winter
    Co2 - via UP Aqua In-Line Atomizer 12/16mm
    Light - 60cm Chihiros A-Series Plus

    I like the wire / adjustable stand of the light above as I want to try get some emersed growth on some golden vine wood / drift wood going on.

    I am not 100% decided on what route to take for the scape / planting... one part of me wants to try fast growing stems / semi dutch scape, the other half wants to keep it simple. Someone posted this photo on the forum which I really love... I think I am going to try something very simular, I wont be able to get that same height with the 45p only 30 cm tall... but I mite have of the wood coming up out of the water and try grow some emersed plants

    The hunt for plants in WA starts, I am looking for

    Flame Moss
    Narrow / Needle Java fern
    Monte Carlo
    Anubias Nana Petite
    Various Buce
    Some kind of stem plants, can someone identify the red stems and taller (central) green stems used here

    Thanks
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    I have monte carlo if your interested. It's growing in a seedling tray, but adapts to water quickly enough.

    the red in the pic is rotala wallichii, not sure about the green stem

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    Following with interesting as I am also thinking of rescaping my 38L tanks. Very nice equipment list.

    Sorry if you don't mind me asking... why have you decided on the Ista external filter?

    I have been thinking of an external canister filter for my 38L tanks and while the Ista has came up on my research, I am drawn towards the Aqua One Ocellaris 400 which has lower power consumption and larger filter media capacity compared to the Ista, but I couldn't find any user review or further information other than the operating manual.

    Just thought I'll ask if you have any experience with any of the small canister filters. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantrasy View Post
    I have monte carlo if your interested. It's growing in a seedling tray, but adapts to water quickly enough.

    the red in the pic is rotala wallichii, not sure about the green stem
    Cheers Dan, will have to track down some Rotala Wallichii, I am wondering how it is planted in that photo, mite try soil in stockings and poke stems in...

    Quote Originally Posted by Madmerv View Post
    Well mate when are you picking up plants.
    I have for free Flame moss, NLJF, and MC. The MC is sitting in a tub and has been for about a week so soon would be good.
    Pm me if you are interested.
    Merv that sounds great, NLJF seems the hard one to track down, I could come collect this weekend if your free, I do have a fair bit of MC myself so that isnt critical but extra would be handy, will drop a PM

    Quote Originally Posted by jc12 View Post
    Following with interesting as I am also thinking of rescaping my 38L tanks. Very nice equipment list.

    Sorry if you don't mind me asking... why have you decided on the Ista external filter?
    jc12 I went with the ISTA filter as I am already using one on my 2ft aquarium and it works well, I didnt even know that the Aqua One filter was available, about a year ago I search for small canisters and that ISTA and Eden was all i could find in AUS. The Aqua one does look good but I have already purchased the ISTA filter :P
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    Proserpinaca palustris is the coloured stem I think looking at the leaf structure. Sweet plant.

    Think about using trident instead of narrow leaf. Shorter leaf structure. I have weeping, flame and Fissendens moss if that will help.

    Tim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mundi View Post
    Proserpinaca palustris is the coloured stem I think looking at the leaf structure. Sweet plant.

    Think about using trident instead of narrow leaf. Shorter leaf structure. I have weeping, flame and Fissendens moss if that will help.

    Tim.
    Good tip on the Trident, now to try find some! Tim would love to grab a little of all those mosses, I will be in touch.

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    Well mate when are you picking up plants.
    I have for free Flame moss, NLJF, and MC. The MC is sitting in a tub and has been for about a week so soon would be good.
    Pm me if you are interested.

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    I aged my wood about 6 months with repeated soaking and drying in direct sun. Now they are in the tank (still floating!) and getting the fungus. Go figure.

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    Dam, not looking forward to floating wood! The light i ordered from ebay will probably take for ever to arrive from Hong Kong so it should be able to soak for a few weeks. I have seen ppl have very bad fungus that basically killed any moss they had attached to the wood while they had bad fungus... I hope that doesn't happen to me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doylecolmdoyle View Post
    I have seen ppl have very bad fungus that basically killed any moss they had attached to the wood !
    You readin my mind. My little bit of mini pelia is being killed right this moment!

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    Killed by fungus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel View Post
    You readin my mind. My little bit of mini pelia is being killed right this moment!
    Oh man that really sucks, I am not sure what to do... perhaps just wrap the vine in moss and hope for no fungus, I will seed the filter with a old sponge and hopefully add DAE shrimp very quickly and hope they eat the goop.

    Quote Originally Posted by sweefu View Post
    Killed by fungus?
    I guess it just "smothers" the moss and it gets blocked from light and nutrients

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweefu View Post
    Killed by fungus?
    Smothered.

    Also noted that mangrove appears to get more fungus than gold vine although both are equally aged.

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