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    Default Harvesting vinegar eels

    Here is how I was told to harvest vinegar eels

    Have culture


    Pour into 500ml volumetric flask


    roughly to the line


    Create a dacron plug.Tie some fishing line onto it


    Insert plug into bottle neck


    Push down till it is just in the culture mix


    Put a couple of cms of water ( from aquarium) over the plug


    Wait



    The idea is the eels come up through the dacron into the fresh water to breathe. This makes them very easy to harvest without drawing up any of the vinegar eel culture.
    I will be back in a few hours with next lot of pics ( this is almost real time lol )

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    nice method. I just use a dust mask. pour on some vinegar and wait for it to filter through. It catches heaps of worms but there is always a little residual vinegar on the dust mask when i put it in the tank.
    Might have to give yr way a go.
    Thanx Aaron

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    Great demo of that method Graeme!

    I too have been introduced to the dust mask method. In a large enough tank, the vinegar is not too bad. But if you want, you can rinse the mask in tank water to get rid of it.

    A betta breeder friend strains VE through the dust mask, then simply drops the mask into the tank. Works wonders from all the fry she raises

    I will give the floss method a go, I've always wanted to try it!

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    What do you have to do to the culture to keep it going Graeme?

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    OK... what do you use these guys for ? im curious ?

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    Live food guys

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    Default Harvest time

    And here are the eels at the top of the neck in nice clean water



    Closers you say?




    I just use a Turkey baster to draw some of the clean water swimming with the eels swimming in it out and squirt it into a tank for fry.

    And then rinse the dacron into my Threadfins tank, they love them

    Pour culture back into main container ready for next time



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    Default Questions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fredus View Post
    What do you have to do to the culture to keep it going Graeme?
    This is my first time with them
    I was given a large culture from a fellow ANGFA mate.
    I am currently sourcing some organic apple cider vinegar ( wife cant seem to find it for me )

    I will be doing things pretty much as Adrian Tappin describes here.
    http://members.optushome.com.au/chelmon/vinegar.htm

    None of the above is my own work or knowledge, I just took the pictures

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    I sadly bumped off a great deal of sterbai corydora wrigglers when using a coffee filter for v. eels.
    I had pulled out my diy frysaver out of big tank to lower the water level so the fry could get the worms easier.
    Didn't factor in how much vinegar would be absorbed by the filter and when I rinsed the filter out into the frysaver, they went nutso.

    At first I thought that they were in raptures over the eels.
    In reality, they were actually dying.. must have been like an acid bath.
    Cried buckets. Poor little fry.

    Did a search found a great method somewhere on google.
    Use a round plastic container, with a round file (forget the actual term for this), gently file vertical channels around interior of container.
    Eels congregate in these channels, en masse.
    Use an eyedropper/pipette to suck them up.
    As they are so clogged in channels, very minimal vinegar was pulled in - I still rinsed them though.

    Was then advised that v.eels are not so great for cories anyway as the eels hang in upper levels of water column.

    To cultivate, I split the culture, using 50/50 ratio of apple cidar vinegar and water and a tiny chunk of apple in bottom.

    Within 10 days I had four cultures on the go - and they last ages.

    Anyone have any good hints on harvesting grindal worms?'
    (Sorry for the hijack/coup, Graeme)

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    After 4 hrs, the clear water at the top of the dacron had the same pH as my tank water ( no mixing ) ( I didnt check this time but did the first time I tried it. )

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    serenitynow
    i just put a piece of glass over a dog biscuit, the grindals will will be all over the underside of the glass in no time then just rinse the glass in the tank and dry it b4 replacing it on the dog biscuit.

    killimike
    yes the dust mask idea should be known as the "lilli" way. Very smart lady

    Great method Graeme, thanx for sharing

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    Hi guys,

    Can anyone help me out with some starter Vinegar eels, please? I've got some blue eyes that would really appreciate it!

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    There is a guy selling vinegar, grindal and micro worms on ebay.

    I brought one of each to try from him.

    Packaging was a little dodgy so half the grindals had escaped and so had some of the vinegar (you should have seen hubby's face.. the post stank!)

    vinegar eels are going fine, as are micro.. still waiting to see if I can build up enough grindals to make it worth while keeping them.

    I get good organic cidar vinegar from a guy up the road who makes it for one of the local vege selling places. So if you get really stuck graeme sing out and I can maybe??? post you across some.

    Natalie
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    Thanks, Natalie! Appreciate the info and the offer. I was hoping for some one local around Sydney so I could pick up ( + given your experience with postage!!)...but doesn't seem like many people keep em?? Anyway, let me try for a bit longer and as you say, if I really get stuck I'll give you a shout!

    Cheers,
    zu

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    re the organic apple cider vinegar. Look at stock feed places as its a popular additive for horses. I used to buy 20L drums and it was unpasteurised but the guy stopped making it and refused to share his recipe.

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