• Lepidogalaxias salamandroides - salamander fish

    Photo thanks to Juls

    Photo thanks to Graeme

    As some of you know that may be Facebook or ANGFA WA Facebook friends , I have a small collection of Salamander fish ( Lepidogalaxias salamandroides)

    These guys are only in the south western corner of WA.
    What makes them odd is they can move their necks which is rather odd to watch

    This isn't a display tank but thought I would share it anyway.

    This article was originally published in forum thread: My salamander fish started by Graeme View original post
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    1. mr_c265's Avatar
      mr_c265 -
      Discussion copied from here:
      Quote Originally Posted by SOLOMON View Post
      Well, I'm not jealous at all..
      Quote Originally Posted by mr_c265 View Post
      Now that's something you don't see everyday ! Love the way you've setup the tank too, lucky little fellows!
      Quote Originally Posted by Juls View Post
      Fat tummys, good to see.

      They really are just like little water lizards, I like it best when they hang off sticks randomly.

      Seeing them in the wild is unmistakable, little spring loaded squiggles fly off across the ground never to be seen again. Much like a snake in movement but much more pronounced in the S shape they make while they swim, much more than you see from an eel or Khuli loach.

      They swim in a few different ways, the s motion is used for rapid escapes, sudden attacks or moving long distances . For just moving short distances they flap there side fins which looks rather odd and jerky.

      They stand on there rear fins like they are legs, and use there front fins sometimes almost like they are arms. Males have significantly modified anal fins. (Unmistakable)

      Quote Originally Posted by Too Many Choices View Post
      Very interesting little fish!

      Can you give us a bit more info about them? Water parameters, feeding, behaviour, conservation status? I'd love to hear
      Quote Originally Posted by bardus71 View Post
      Please post a vid of them rubber necking!
      Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
      There isn't heaps of information on the little guys and as far as I know they haven't been captive bred yet ( But I think Juls will manage it soon )
      Here are some MUCH better photos

      I wont just repeat information I have read but will share my links

      Hope that answers some of your questions.

      I am feeding mine small mosquito larvae which they attack with gusto. I will be trying to source some other live foods to try with them

      Quote Originally Posted by Too Many Choices View Post

      I hope to see them in the hobby one day!
      Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
      I will try tomorrow ( they don't always pose......................)
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
      Awesome fish, great looking aquarium.
      If you guys need some really small freshwater plankton let me know and I will send some down so you can start a culture (rotifers and paramecium). The babies may have small mouths and be difficult. Really great to see them in captivity and good luck breeding them. There is some great info about breeding small critters in Brian Andrews new book on Ornamental Fish Farming. If ANGFA has a bit of spare cash it would be a good book to get for the library. Email Brian and see if he has any left.

      Brian Andrews <brian.seriola@gmail.com>

      Quote Originally Posted by mr_c265 View Post
      I've got a culture at the moment of Daphnia, Cyclops and Ostracods, been using that to feed Betta Channoides fry, the adults get Mossie wrigglers. Also have used Infusoria in the past for Goldies. Both are pretty easy to do, the Ostracods would go down well with these little guys i reckon. My Dad keeps galaxias, cant imagine these being too different, they love the cyclops and Ostracods. My Betta Channoides also love DAS babies, can see the tiny little things get sucked off the glass.
      Quote Originally Posted by Juls View Post
      They seem to do best with foods that stay close to the ground, the group I have at the moment are eating frozen bloodworm, but it took some time to convince them.

      They need fairly soft water, they don't seem to do well in ph above 7, I have found them mostly around ph 3.8-4.2 but in some streams it's up to 6.8

      They are typically found in small pools that dry up in summer, swamplands that are dry in summer and minor creeks that either dry up or run all year. Never found one in a river.

      Quote Originally Posted by aquaholic99 View Post
      I bought Brian's book about 2 weeks ago so still in stock
      Quote Originally Posted by davo0192 View Post
      Brian has always wanted to get his book on this forum..

      I remember when Brian gave me one of his books..I was so honoured. It is one of the bibles in the aquarium industry and for the price it is worth it.

      Yes he has plenty of stock remaining and he has an ebook version as well for those interested.

      In regards to the salamander fish..Greame, if you can breed them start distributing them in the specialist in the hobby let's not get this fish go extinct!!.
      Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyGourami View Post
      They are so cool!
      How did you get your hands on them?
      Quote Originally Posted by loachs4all View Post
      Fantastic looking fish mate. May not be a display tank but looking good. Bloody good camo on them though. Hard to spot.
      Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post

      Just a quick vid, sorry in advance for reflections of my ugly mug
      Quote Originally Posted by Juls View Post
      Bet that was frustrating to take, probably did something cool after you turned the camera off, I've got a video of one stealing bloodworm out of another's mouth, have to get round to putting it up. Good fun :-)

    1. DiscusEden's Avatar
      DiscusEden -
      See thread:
      This thread has great pictures, including:

      Photo thanks to Juls

      Photo thanks to Juls
    1. DiscusEden's Avatar
      DiscusEden -
      All Lepidogalaxias salamandroides are NOT legal imports to Australia as of 20/10/2013:
      however, as Australian natives, they can legally be purchased from Australian stock.

      The IUCN Red List reports Lepidogalaxias salamandroides as a species which is lower risk/near threatened, and needs updating at 20/10/2013:

      It is very important not to release any aquarium specimens into our waterways. Any that are not sold or re-homed/ given away, can often be re-sold to aquarium stores. If they are homed in ponds, care should be taken that they cannot escape in run-off into our waterways. Even if fish are native & local they should not be moved from one waterway to another, as this can transfer disease. If they are not local fish, they can both spread disease and either out-compete or eat local fish, shrimp & plants, causing their demise.
    1. pseudechisbutleri's Avatar
      pseudechisbutleri -
      Were your salamander fish collected before they became protected?
    1. Juls's Avatar
      Juls -
      If you look at the original post date that's self explanatory.

      Neither me or Graeme have kept salamander fish for several years. No intention to keep them again. I learnt from my experience it's best to just leave them be.
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